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::: What do you think? (BTW, I realize you have already put some work into these, so count with my help).
 
::: What do you think? (BTW, I realize you have already put some work into these, so count with my help).
 
--[[User:Attendant|Attendant]] 13:13, 25 December 2007 (PST)
 
--[[User:Attendant|Attendant]] 13:13, 25 December 2007 (PST)
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::::That'd be fine with me, I'd rearrange the order of the parameters of '''song album''' though.  My only possible concern would be the complexity to the normal user of using so many templates... not that we aren't abusing them already. ;) --[[User:MindlessXD|MindlessXD]] 13:22, 25 December 2007 (PST)

Revision as of 13:22, 25 December 2007

amaroK lyrics plugin

I noticed a comment at the lyriki amaroK plugin page:

Title: "Great Heart"
Artist: "Johnny Clegg & Savuka"

In this case, a lyrics page for Johnny_Clegg:Great_Heart exists and also an artist page for Johnny_Clegg.
But if the artist tag says "Johnny Clegg & Savuka", not the lyrics are returned, but the artist page.

I don't know if you've fixed this or not, but if you haven't, it's probably because you aren't urlencodeing the page name. Since & is a reserved symbol in URLs everything after it will basically be truncated since it expects more parameters. --MindlessXD 14:19, 16 May 2006 (PDT)

Well, there are a few thing to 'review' in that script. I have already fixed some of them, will check this one for the next release too (which will be soon).
Changing the subject... do we have a page for scripts and things alike? (if not, maybe we should). I've been working on amaBot for awhile and after fixing some things I'd like to release it to the general public. Is it possible to upload files to the site (other than pictures)? --Attendant 22:19, 17 May 2006 (PDT)
Lyriki - The Lyrics Wiki:Software (and it's talk page) is where all the scripts are so far. I don't think non-media files can be uploaded, unforunately. --MindlessXD 16:20, 18 May 2006 (PDT)

With the recent site update, the script seems to have stopped submitting properly. It doesn't give any debug output, but it just says in the statusbar that there was a submission error. --Dhraakellian 20:55, 23 March 2007 (PDT)

Just saw the update on kde-apps. Thanks. --Dhraakellian 11:53, 29 March 2007 (PDT)
The script is broken again with the latest MediaWiki update, I think. --MindlessXD 20:28, 11 December 2007 (PST)
Yes, I'm working on a fix. To the one in charge of updating the site's MediaWiki version, please always let me know ASAP of the update (or before, if possible). --Attendant 21:51, 11 December 2007 (PST)

re: capitalization

ooops, looks like they slipped past my editting, sorry about that. --Ahoier 11:45, 24 June 2006 (PDT)

oh wow, I think I've made this mistake on other lyric pages too; where there are more than 2 albums, that contain the same lyrics. Is there any easy way of going back and figuring out which ones? so only 1 lyric tag per page. I'll keep that in mind. I think we just need another/new/modified template for lyrics/tracks that appear on multiple albums, to make this all easier.--ahoier 07:24, 25 June 2006 (PDT)
i figured what i meant. before when i was using the 2 lyric tags, I was using br tags to line break between the different versions of the song. But now using just one lyric tag that shouldn't be a problem anyhow, since the breaks are preserved within those lyric tags anyhow. I guess I was just making more work for myself :P--ahoier 18:01, 25 June 2006 (PDT)

Feature Suggestions for Lyriki.rb

  1. Have Lyriki.rb open up the submit dialog if no lyrics are found whatsoever.
  2. Have a command-line switch to force GTK, Tcl/TK, or QT bindings.
  3. Maybe pop up the dialog first thing and report as it scans. 'Searching Lyriki ... Not Found'. This is actually a half-request, cause there's no real intent to support Lyriki on windows, but the methods for calling Lyriki on windows generate no feedback as to whether it's working and just not finding anything, or failing outright.
  4. If the song is found on lyriki, and marked as AutoGenerated, pop up the edit dialog instead of just scraping the lyrics, perhaps an option for this on the command line, maybe even just make it toggle so that it always opens the editable dialog instead of ever showing the lyric plain window.
  5. An option not to show the plain lyric window after submitting lyrics.

Any/All the above would be greatly appreciated if you get the time :)

--Nanenj 12:42, 7 October 2006 (PDT)

  1. Can be done
  2. Trivial to implement (though I don't see why it's necessary)
  3. Don't expect this for now...
  4. Almost done
  5. Known bug I haven't fix yet (will do someday)
--Attendant 11:13, 8 October 2006 (PDT)
Good deal, 2 is mainly a debugging thing. When I installed GTK, at first the script was entirely broken. It took me a bit of testing to get it working again, but, without removing GTK, I couldn't test if the Tcl bindings still worked ^^; Also, I'm not sure how fussy other people are, but, some may like one interface better than another, or such silliness :P (I know the GTK UI looks a billion times better than the Tcl/Tk UI :P). Thanks for all the work you've put into it :) --Nanenj 12:15, 8 October 2006 (PDT)

Bjork

Hey, I noticed Bjork in your talk page ;) But it should probably be Björk? :) --ahoier 05:59, 25 October 2006 (PDT)

reverting articles?

Linkin_Park:1Stp_Klosr got vandalized/spammed by User:66.112.48.17 (CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc), is there a built-in "Revert" feature to revert to my previous edit? Or is the fix just to copy/paste and repost the lyrics in place of the spam. Sorry about the SOAD stuff. --ahoier 09:13, 4 November 2006 (PST)

alright, that answered my question. sounds simple enough. The rollback feature doesn't seem to be their for non-Admins, but the editting the previous post, and then re-posting it would work fine. --ahoier 11:27, 5 November 2006 (PST)

Templates

Just out of curiosity, why use HTML tables instead of wiki-tables? --MindlessXD 21:42, 28 January 2007 (PST)

So that we don't use work around templates that impose an additional unnecessary burden on the server. --Attendant 09:08, 29 January 2007 (PST)

BarnStar

In honour of your diligence in cleaning up after newbies and others, here is a barnstar, the traditional Wiki award for those contributors who go above and beyond to knit a wiki community together and tighten up its product.

Barnstar.png

See Meatball:BarnStar.

-- Mark 12:30, 2 February 2007 (PST)

Problems ?

Dear Admin, I had some problems with creation of some cross-links, because it seems Lyriki cannot create links to words which differ only by capitalization of letters. I think this is big trouble, so it will be better if the names of the songs and albums are not case sensitive. So that it seems I have created doubled entry on Tatu album "Dangerous and Moving" that is different from "Dangerous And Moving", and after some confusion I have realized that what matters is the capitalization of "and", this is bizzare, and I think it is better if something can be done to resolve this problem. Regards, Dankomed 06:49, 26 May 2007 (PDT)

strange occurance with lyriki script

I just stumbled upon Atreyu:An Interlude - which was auto-genetated by User:Eatpie75 using (autogen. song page (LLv0.8)). It didn't format the page according to the Lyriki Standards for Instrumental page formatting. Has there been an update since 0.8 that fixes that occurance? --ahoier 19:34, 14 July 2007 (PDT)

Yes. --Attendant 10:18, 15 July 2007 (PDT)

ssong

Just so you know, Song has replaced both the old song template and SSong. Also the new song template currently cannot handle multiple artists. Do you think multiple-artist support should be implemented in the same template or should there be a separate multi-artist template? --MindlessXD 01:00, 24 December 2007 (PST)

Good, it always bothered me that they were separate templates. I think multiple artist should be also handled by the same template similarly to how album/albums parameters are handled now: use an artist parameter for single artists (where the braces to form the link are added by the template -that is, just as it is now) and a loose artists parameter for more complex cases such as multiple artists (where all the links information has to be added manually). BTW, the album template could benefit from something like this too (as it also doesn't support multiple artists). --Attendant 01:15, 25 December 2007 (PST)
Should that be in addition to the multiple artist function added yesterday? I think an artists parameter could be the displayed information while the artist - artist5 parameters would still be used to create the categorization. In that case, it would be possible to do everything through the artists parameter if one wanted to (or if there were more than 5 artists). --MindlessXD 07:22, 25 December 2007 (PST)
I've gone ahead and implemented this so you can see what I mean. --MindlessXD 08:19, 25 December 2007 (PST)
Also, I agree that this format would work well for the album template. --MindlessXD 07:24, 25 December 2007 (PST)
Sorry, I hadn't actually looked at the template when I replied. Seems perfectly good to me as it is now. --Attendant 12:14, 25 December 2007 (PST)
On a second look however....
Sorry again. I've been updating the help on adding songs to the site and I think it will all be more consistent with the following changes:
* drop the artist1 to artist5 parameters
* leave the artists parameter as the option for "complicated cases" but with a new template, {{song artist}}, that will take care of adding the braces to form the link and adding the page to the artist category (and in the future anything else we might add).
* rename the template {{album link inline}} to {{song album}}
An example of what I would like to see:
{{song|
| song     = Song Title
| artists  = {{song artist|Artist1}} feat. {{song artist|Artist2}}
| albums   = {{song album|Year|Album|Artist1}}<br />{{song album|Year|Album|Artist1}}
| credits  = Composers
| lyricist = Lyricist
}}
What do you think? (BTW, I realize you have already put some work into these, so count with my help).

--Attendant 13:13, 25 December 2007 (PST)

That'd be fine with me, I'd rearrange the order of the parameters of song album though. My only possible concern would be the complexity to the normal user of using so many templates... not that we aren't abusing them already. ;) --MindlessXD 13:22, 25 December 2007 (PST)